Water Logic: An Elemental Logic Novel

By water logic, a cow doctor becomes a politician. A soldier becomes a flower farmer. A lost book contains a lost future. The patterns of history are made and.
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The two peoples share land and work, but old hatreds smolder.


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And then a would-be assassin tries to kill Karis, and things get crazy. Clement, general of Karis' army, faces off with old friend but now rival general Heras over control of five mutinied garrisons now under Heras.

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Clement is killed and restored to life, but now she has lost all courage. Karis restores that courage at the increasing expense of Clement's mental health. The general, sound for some time after Karis touches her head, eventually becomes stupid; Karis can restore her again, but each successive relapse is worse. Meanwhile, a water witch steals Karis' wife, Zanja, and transports her years into the past, in which she has her own parallel adventures that affect the future; that is, her natural present. Marks teaches at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. Award and a founding member of Broad Universe.

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By water logic, a cow doctor becomes a politician. A soldier becomes a flower farmer. A lost book contains a lost future. The patterns of history are made and unmade. Amid assassinations, rebellions, and the pyres of too many dead, a new government forms in the land of Shaftal-a government of soldiers and farmers, scholars and elemental talents, all weary of war and longing for peace. But some cannot forget their losses, and some cannot imagine a place for themselves in an enemy land.

Before memory, before recorded history, something happened that now must be remembered. Zanja na'Tarwein, the crosser of boundaries, born in fire and wedded to earth, has fallen under the ice. Now, by water logic, the logic of patterns repeated, of laughter and music, the lost must be found-or the found may forever be lost. Marks teaches at the University of Massachusetts Boston.

She is the author of five previous novels, and her first two Elemental Logic novels Fire Logic and Earth Logic won the Gaylactic Spectrum Award and received multiple starred reviews. Read more Read less.

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Special offers and product promotions Rs cashback on Rs or more for purchases made through Amazon Assistant. Offer period 1st September to 30th September. It is lovely to see that Small Beer is also reprinting the first two. Yet, at the root, everyone is on the same team, if only they would pause, reflect, and allow movement into knowledge. One person found this helpful. Amazing world building and truly 3 dimensional diverse characters. Love this series, and can't wait for the 4th book!

My only pet peeve is that it is a different size and has a different cover design than the first 2 volumes: The first book in this series is amazing. The second is decent. I have nothing against the series as a whole, but this installment was oddly lack-luster to me. The plot kind of skipped around, and left many things unresolved. At the end of the last two books, I was satisfied putting them down, but Water Logic left too much hanging, despite the typical, triumphant lesbian sex at the end. With no definite date for the last book, you're left without resolution for an indefinite period of time.

I love Ocean as much as the next reader, but she was lacking as a character. The characters we've come to know and love don't get much exposition. I'll be finishing the series if the last book is ever published, but I don't really expect to enjoy it at this point.

For all of the awesome world-building, racial and sexual diversity, and interesting history This book still fell flat. I was very happy to see this book made available on Kindle, so I purchased it even though I already owned it. The original text uses an interesting font that seems to have been too much for a scanner to handle what, it wasn't digital already?

The resulting Kindle book contains too many scan errors to count -- we're talking multiple per page here, and they are obviously scan errors for example, most lower-case y's ended up as v's. Having gone the lazy route, the publisher then clearly couldn't be bothered for even the most cursory review before throwing it out there. This is lazy, greedy, unethical and unprofessional. If you're a fan of Laurie J. I have been enjoying the series tremendously! The only reason I gave it 4 stars is because 5 is perfect and very few writers actually deserve a perfect score, but this author is pretty close.

In Fire Logic, there were great battles, and Our Team won. There was plenty of room for nation-wide grand gestures.

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In Earth Logic, there was the problem of winning the war and re-establishing a government while fighting a civil war. Complicated, and still room for grand gestures in front of armies.

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In Water Logic, the war is basically won, but not completely. A few Their Team garrisons are led by people who think the wrong person succeeded the deceased general. They who are willing to fight their own top brass in order to become the top brass, and the way to rally the troops is to denounce the surrender and promise to keep fighting the enemy until they win. I think the only one who is really happy is Garland the cook, and even he is upset because the boss is too upset eat. One character from a previous book is brought to new prominence. See all 12 reviews.

Most recent customer reviews. Published on January 24, Published on November 27, Published on July 7, Published on June 10, Amazon Giveaway allows you to run promotional giveaways in order to create buzz, reward your audience, and attract new followers and customers. It has an interesting, well-realized world I read the first two in this series Fire Logic and Earth Logic quite a while ago. It has an interesting, well-realized world with interesting cultural elements and magical details, as well as engaging, rounded characters. The story kept my interest, while creating a thoughtful dialogue about the clashes of cultures and the personal attitudes that can lead to conflict or pacifism.

Aug 01, Elena rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: This book is not as strong as the first two books in the series, in terms of the plotting, which was more haphazard and felt unfinished at the conclusion of the book. To some extent, this serves to presumably set the reader up for the fourth book in the series, but I'm not a big fan of books that leave significant plot points hanging that way. That said, the book does still have the fascinating themes and strong character development of the last two books, and on top of that, is published by Sm This book is not as strong as the first two books in the series, in terms of the plotting, which was more haphazard and felt unfinished at the conclusion of the book.

That said, the book does still have the fascinating themes and strong character development of the last two books, and on top of that, is published by Small Beer Press instead of Tor, and thus has a much better look and feel the Hot Warrior Woman covers of the first two books didn't really do the content justice. Feb 16, Joe rated it liked it. This book suffers a little from what I call the "gay bubble effect. Yet I find the dearth of straight characters in her books nearly as jarring as when authors include no gay characters.

It's fantasy, so I don't expect the world to be realistic, but it took some doing to readjust my worldview and appreciate the complex network of relatio This book suffers a little from what I call the "gay bubble effect. It's fantasy, so I don't expect the world to be realistic, but it took some doing to readjust my worldview and appreciate the complex network of relationships that Marks lays out in Water Logic.

At its heart, this book is intensely romantic and almost philosophical, and while I found it somewhat troublesome I have enjoyed it so far. Jul 07, Anna rated it it was amazing Shelves: I sure hope I remember this book once the last one in the series comes out. But since she's been working on it for five years so far, I'm not holding my breath Maybe she takes so long writing these books because each one explores a new and complex issue. Water Logic covers how two different cultures can coexist in the same space very relevant to our modern life.

Despite pain and agony repeatedly cropping up in the plot, the book leaves you with a peaceful feeling.


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Mar 30, Illusode rated it it was amazing Shelves: This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Usually I hate that tool, because the charcters inevitably tie themselves in knots over the philosophies involved or I do, but the characters were so confounded that it seemed plausible. Also, there were more descriptions of people in this book than the previous two, enabling me to visualize scenes and actions more vividly. Jul 18, Lydia rated it liked it.

Water Logic: An Elemental Logic Novel

I'm reviewing the series as a whole, because I read them back to back. A very interesting world! But the plot was kind of loosey goosey, especially in the second two books. I didn't mind it being slow, but sometimes it seemed completely directionless. It was not very gripping, and I had no problem putting a I'm reviewing the series as a whole, because I read them back to back. It was not very gripping, and I had no problem putting any of them down.

In the first book, I was very thrown off by the sex, not because of being prudish, but because it was like: Aha, two characters who have never seen each other before meet in a tavern, so obviously they will go out back and have sex in the stable immediately. Or, oh I have been hiking in the snow for days and I am stinky and wet and smell like wool and you're hot and gave me shelter so let's get it on.

I'm not buying it. There was one storyline with sex that did make sense, but that was the only one that did, to my mind. And here's my primary complaint, which contains a spoiler from the third book: It spoils the whole "let's make peace and learn to live with each other" thing when surprise! They aren't actually different after all!

They are the same people group and were refugees at different times!!! What a cop out. I liked the cover of the third book a lot. I would recommend the series for the sake of the characters, but that's about it. Nov 30, Dianna rated it it was ok. Well, this book definitely wasn't what I expected I thought the last book in the series would wrap up the story by focusing on how peace would be achieved between the Sainnites and the Shaftali, and while that was addressed to some extent, the primary story here follows Zanja as she goes on another journey and crosses yet another boundary, this time the boundary being time itself.

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While on a simple mission for the G'deon to bring back some guard dogs, Zanja falls into the freezing cold waters o Well, this book definitely wasn't what I expected While on a simple mission for the G'deon to bring back some guard dogs, Zanja falls into the freezing cold waters of a lake or river?

Alone and without any resources, she has to figure out who brought her back and what they wish for her to achieve. Meanwhile in current times, the Sainnite general Clement pays a visit to some rebel commanders led by her one time friend and lover and has to use force to bring them under control, at great cost to her own body and mind. Once again, we see a demonstration of how powerful water magic can be here, and again, that makes me wonder why there is no fire magic in this world except for the prescience that seems to attend all fire bloods.

Some of the other side characters who I enjoyed reading about, such as Emil and Medric, didn't play a very big role in this book. Since all the characters were spread out, especially with Zanja stuck in the past, we didn't get to experience their family dynamics which was such a big part of the second book.

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Karis's powers were limited here by the death of two of her ravens. It seems like every time one dies, it comes at great price to herself. Apr 03, Lauren rated it really liked it. This is an amazing book. Hard to enter into, and a slog at times, but the author has carefully put together an assemblage of characters that go so deep as to make you feel like they are intimate friends. The questions put forth in this third novel of a series, are ones that humans on the earth of the early 21st century would be familiar with. How, with all of our acute differences may we learn to live with one another?

There is much hope at the end that this may come about, at least in the world This is an amazing book. There is much hope at the end that this may come about, at least in the world the novel takes place in. Of course there is magic involved, but that, in essence is what we need as well. Jun 18, Emma rated it it was amazing. I'm so emotional about this!!!! Dec 25, Jumps rated it really liked it Shelves: The storyline grows larger and unwieldy as the lives of the characters grow and expand.