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Maybe you"re a longtime Christian who feels ineffective or hampered at every turn. Too often your church body behaves just like the world you"re trying to.
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As i told you Moscow was not to be trusted. The EP and the MP are both wrong snd their lolitics over their own glory and being controlled by their respective goverments is not just dividing the Church but desecrating it. A pox on borh of them. They are both ruining and desecrating the Church and the Eucharist.


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Lord have mercy, please save us from our stupidity and sins. Peter A. Peter, you have a good point. But, St. John Chrysostom new about the HUGE temptation of the Bishop which he described as a very beautiful young woman which is exactly as you say the Glory. But they are not all just as strong to resist that temptation.

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In our case, it seem certain that MP is the lesser of the two evils. Because as Chrysostom says, we need to have a Bishop! If you want two quick examples:. Sotiropoulos for criticising anti-christian words of an Archbishop. Peter, just a note: I was talking with my Bishop one Sunday after Liturgy expressing my hope that he would speak out and give his flock guidance. He said he would when the time was right. This is a man whom I love and respect deeply. He finished by telling me I put too much trust in him. Not sure where that came from but I feel no reason to roll the statement back.

Having the Patriarchate of Alexandria in control of the entire African continent is nonsensical and non-historical. It was another invention of Metaxakis. It encompassed Carthage and Tunisia and the rest of northwest Africa. Alexandria encompassed Egypt, Sudan and the African Horn. No canon gives the entire continent of Africa to the Alexandrian bishop, the continent was appropriate by Meletios to himself the same way he took the greek-american parishes for himself.

There is no way a small contingent of Greeks whose addresses are in mainland Greece are capable of evangelizing the second largest both geographically and population wise continent on earth.

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The Free-Mason Metaxakis of thrice wretched memory did untold damage to the Church. Bartholomew may be worse if that is conceivable. I fully support what Russia must do on the African continent. It appears the root of the problem is the human weakness towards the beautiful female, Gloria, the Glory. It takes a real Saint to withstand Glory.

The canons of the Church were wisely made to address specific problems. In our case, application of Canon 28 4th E. S has been distorted. Please read carefully and then read the interpretation by St. The tangible purpose was to facilitate the visits of remote Bishops when they wanted to go to the Head of State and ask for some assistance. It is clear that from the time of Christ and beginning of the Church, one came ultimately face to face with the officials of the State. Greece, or in non-christian China. Canon 28 shows that all Bishops were equal.

When the Emperor of was still in Rome then the Bishop of Rome had this function. As we have discussed this before, if we really want to apply the real spirit and interpretation of Canon 28, then: -All Bishops would be absolutely equal. Washington D. POTUS and ask for specific assistance.

Why not? Arabs only took over Antioch in the 19th century, so it can happen. The restoration of the Copts to communion would be a massive game changer. The Russian Church historically having legitimate jurisdiction over North America not unrefuted by Greeks who had unaffiliated parishes establishes here very legitimately handed over that jurisdiction to the Orthodox Church in America, to whom they gave a Tomos of Autocephaly.

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Placing Carthage under the authority of Alexandria was, and is, a silly idea. Egypt and Africa were always two different things, even more different than Greece Italy. It is easy to come to the conclusion that the entire Partiarchal system is a useless relic of the Roman Empire. Quite possibly it has always done more harm than good. I am not certain that is correct but easy to go there.

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And not Patriarch. How we elect bishops also needs to be examined. I hold that the ancient pentarchy has been in abeyance as the mode of ecclesiastical governance and intra Orthodox relations i. It seems they have been working on resolving their differences. See, e. Certainly calling the council in Jordan out of respect for Syrians who cannot enter Israel was an olive branch. Perhaps if Russia-Ukraine is resolved, they will apply the same principle to the Antioch-Jerusalem conflict. Any council which is held will certainly involve concelebration.

I imagine Bart would be furious if they restored communion at this council rather than his. Meanwhile people thirst and I thank God for His never ending love and patience no matter what the circumstances may be. In the mean time for some we can weep with much joy, there are so many good canonical Bishops and Priests doing the will of the Lord God Almighty. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.

I read Bartholomaios interview re Elpidophoros and its a Fantasy land interview from another world. Any instability that Africa will experience will squarely rest on the shoulders of the Patriach. If it comes to a point where none of this is reversed, then we indigenous Africans welcome any jurisdiction that is faithful to the Orthodox Faith.

We also reject any appearance of unity that is not based on Truth. Patriach Theodore II had a choice, and he went for one that has nothing to do with Orthodoxy in Africa. He further gloated that the MP would never sever communion with him. He made this decision with only a few Greek bishops, outside a synod. Let all the faithful jurisdictions come, so that Orthodoxy can grow in this continent.

When all is sorted, we will look back at these events and see the hand of God in them. Word on the vine also says that a half of the Priests in Dar-El-Salaam is rejecting the local hierachy. Would we rather they join uncanonical groups, or be shepherded by an Orthodox jurisdiction? Very well said, Cathy. Very well said. Several years ago, I was told that if any Orthodox in America wanted to help African Orthodox parishes, that they should send their money directly to the parishes and not to the Greek-dominated dioceses.

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Cathy, you are absolutely right. I am Greek but I am first Orthodox, and I have to admit you are right. By the way I would lile to ask you if you have heard something similar to this: About years ago I watched on YouTube a liturgy Patr. He made a homily to the local people via an interpreter? What does THAT mean? And so many times? What was the core message of his homily? Is that an indirect petition that you must assist Al. My question to you Cathy is whether you have heard this particular homily of his, or something similar.

I am speaking from memory and I would like to make sure. Maybe parishes ought to start augmenting every divine liturgy with the rubrics for The Increase of Love.

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Should all Local Churches gather at it to determine the truth? Their fear of their house of cards crumbling is palpable. They would syncretize with monophysites but not Western Trinitarian Christians? That is why the Russians turned to satanic syncretism of monphysite Skoptosy circumcision, Zoroastrian toll houses and mir obsinas. That is how the nigrasiates brought their miaphysitic communism to bloody Greece where the Ignatieff Comitazis left off. With all due respect, Mark, is this English that you have written?

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