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It is not for me to decide or judge. I can tell the Minister of State that I have been inundated with representations on this issue. I do not see the difficulty in looking back at the decision taken in and assessing whether the right call was made. If not, we can address that. It would be in the interests of the citizens of the State, those that served during that time and their family members. There is no shame in saying that the wrong call was made. Perhaps it was not. I do not see the difficulty in looking back to see if we did the right thing.

Deputy Lisa Chambers asked about service medals and Jadotville in particular. In recognition of the mission in Jadotville and the contribution that members of the Irish Defence Forces made, I made this a priority when I came into the Department.


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This issue has gone on for many years and has been dealt with by many Ministers. I have asked the Chief of Staff to see what records there are relating to the battle of Jadotville in order to discover if we can recognise the soldiers' work and commitment during their mission. Deputy Chambers will be well aware as a former member of the Reserve Defence Force of the regulations around medals and that has to be respected also. I assure the Deputy that this matter is ongoing within my own Department and within the Defence Forces.

We will continue to examine whether they can be awarded some form of medal. Personally, I would not like to see just three or four people getting medals. We have to recognise all the members who made a contribution to Jadotville because they all made a huge contribution in their own way. On Brexit, colleagues will be aware that the Prime Minister of the UK said she will trigger Article 50 shortly, although I am not sure if that will happen because of events yesterday.

That is a matter for the British Government. Let me assure the Deputy that I have assigned a senior person within my Department to deal with all Brexit-related matters. This person is supported by a number of others in all branches within the Department and the Defence Forces.

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The managing board is also acting as a clearing house for Brexit and maintains oversight of all issues that are arising at present. I and senior officials within my Department have had a number of meetings with the Department of the Taoiseach. Once Article 50 is moved upon and the negotiations begin, we will be very much involved and will be ready. Regarding the issues around the Air Corps, as the Deputy well knows and as I have stated on numerous occasions, there is a shortage of pilots.

That is an issue I am trying to address but it cannot be addressed overnight. We have eight cadets going through at the moment and pilots coming on each year. It takes five years before a pilot is fully trained up and qualified to fly any form of aircraft. I am addressing the issue but it will take quite some time to get back to full strength. That is the reason there has been a lowering of flying hours within the Air Corps. I know Deputy Chambers asked for specifics around training days, the spending of the budget, the gratuity payment and so on.

One thing I do not want to lose is the whole voluntary ethos around the Reserve Defence Force. People join for the right reasons when they join as volunteers. I do not want people to lose that special ethos. I will look at the issues the Deputy raised around the gratuity. On the number of training days, during , a total of 1, Reserve personnel undertook paid training days and a total of 19, training man days were used up. As in the years to , inclusive, not all of the allocation of was used up.

The Deputy raised specific issues about whether we can use up the underspend or savings. I will examine the matter. I have spoken to senior people in my Department, the Chief of Staff and the Deputy Chief of Staff about how we can improve the terms and conditions, recruitment and everything relating to the Reserve. I want to make sure this is prioritised in Even though we have a great number of people applying for the Reserve, when it comes to having the medical exams and things like that, many people fall off.

I want to find out if the process is taking so long that we are losing people. I am not sure what the issues are in that regard.


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I have a couple of follow-up questions. The Minister of State did not answer my question about the health review and the hazardous materials at Casement Aerodrome. In terms of the gratuity payment, there is no fear of losing the voluntary ethos. This payment was always there.

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It was only taken away when the country hit crisis point and we had to save money. As somebody who has served in the Reserve, I can tell the Minister that it is quite an expensive thing to do. It costs money to be a member.


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People are paying for equipment and taking time off work. The gratuity payment just balanced it out. Restoring it would not affect the volunteerism. The issue is coming up all the time. No one is in the Reserve for the money - I guarantee the Minister that. It is a minor amount of money which people would only get if they did their two weeks' training. They have taken the financial hit with their two weeks' training; they have taken time off work, lost their wages and are getting taxed heavily. When I was in the Reserve in the early days, the payment used to come at the end of the training period.

Then it changed and people got it at the end of the year. That did not make a huge amount of difference, and people were fine about getting it at the end of the year. It helped balance out the cost of being in the organisation. In terms of the man-days, all I am suggesting is that many days are being handed back and there are people who would take them on.

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I am not suggesting the Minister gives a serving member - man or woman - the ability to do six months in the Reserve Defence Force and make a career out of it. A period of 28 days is quite restrictive. If someone does a two-week training course such as a career course, as a corporal or sergeant, and then wants to do the two weeks' annual training in the summer, they cannot then do the Easter or winter camp.

It is just the basic weeks of training. It is difficult for any unit, particularly in rural communities, to get the numbers to turn up. People have different things going on in their lives.

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When we have people active and willing to give the extra time, it is very difficult to run a camp if only five people turn up and there are others sitting at home who would love to go and cannot. A bit of flexibility is needed. I ask the Minister to increase the 28 days by adding an extra two or three weeks. That is not a huge amount but it would allow units to use the man days that they have. The Minister has asked us to give him recommendations. From my own personal experience and from talking to people in the organisation, I have given him two very practical solutions that I think would make a huge difference.

The Minister could try them for a year and see the difference they make. I am trying to be helpful. I understand what Deputy Chambers is saying about the gratuity payment. That money was actually put back into training, however. We can differ on that. There is flexibility there.

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I will discuss it with the officials in the Department. I take on board the importance of encouraging people to come in and recognising the contribution existing members are making. On the health and safety issues in the Air Corps, I expect to get the independent review over the next few weeks. When I see its findings I will consider them and make recommendations accordingly. I will take cognisance of everything the independent assessor recommends to me. I know the reviewer has met the three people involved individually and I have asked him to get back to me with the assessment as soon as possible.

I thought I would have had it by the end of March or early April.

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