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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What do you see when you close your eyes? Thread starter scotty Start date Mar 25, Wasn't sure where to put this so it's in the chill bit. I'm just curious to what you other creatives "see when you close your eyes". If you think of an apple, do you see an apple in your mind or is it blank?

Reason I ask is that about 15 years ago, I realised that I couldn't form a mental picture in my mind.

All I see is the back of my eyelids. I only recognised this properly after talking on another 'Illustration' forum when someone else mentioned this an I had an epiphany moment. It was greeted by many of the other members with hostility and disbelief for some strange reason. Many psychologists agree with this as it goes against many of the teachings about cognitive thought.

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Anyhow, I was really interested as to what this was all about but until recently there was almost nothing on the web about it. Last year Exeter University started research into it and gave it a name "Aphantasia" which means no imagination and I'm part of their programme. Since then, many, many other people have found they have it without ever really knowing and here's my point: It's come to light that ironically, a very high number of people who have this are creatives. Much higher than the norm and it seems to go against logic. How can people that create do so with no visual imagination?

My theory is that without a 'minds eye' you are pushed to use other things, such as paper and pencil and it starts there almost like on odd gift. There's loads of other spin off effects like difficulty reading novels, terrible with directions, putting names to faces. The list goes on. I just wondered as this is a forum for creatives, how many of you may have it without even knowing? Try it. Close your eyes. Think of an apple of something and what do you see?

If there's nothing there then you have Aphantasia. Levi Moderator Staff member. I kind of design 'ideas' with my eyes closed all the time but the funny thing is that I don't actually visualise a picture of what it is, it's more a case of visualising the idea of what it looks like or how it will work if you get me, think of it more along the lines of a website wireframe rather than a photoshop mockup.

I suppose I'm making mental notes of elements which make the design rather than the actual design, I then put these down on paper etc when I get a chance because I seem to retain these types of designs for ages.

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I don't see an apple when I think of an apple but I know what it looks like if you get me. Annoyingly they changed this requirement to show development when we finished our course and had more focus on the idea I do know that my brain is wired slightly differently due to my dyslexia and supposedly it allows me to 'visualise in 3D' when normal people can't.

I know I can come up with a design and 'rotate' it in my mind while adjusting it's perspective etc which actually is really handy for my work but I don't know if it's true that someone who isn't dyslexic can't do it. I'm also really good at visualising perspective and relative scales when doing my rough sketching, always have been with inanimate objects can't do people very well. I've always struggled with remembering names quickly although I'll remember what someone looks like really easy and directions are a case of I can get to where I want easily enough, especially locally, but don't ask me the street names as I haven't got a clue most of the time, luckily we have sat nav now.

Last edited: Mar 25, Sounds like you may have it Levi.


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  6. There are varying levels from the odd, vague flash of an image or nothing at all like me. I'm also dyslexic and it's seem to be similar to Aphantasia as your brains wired differently. Especially back at school and college. It's hard to explain. I's almost like you don't see the image, you see the code behind it if you get my drift.

    Sounds a bit Matrixy. I had the option of the extensions on exams but honestly never used them because I never had issues with time, I either knew the answer or I didn't and extra time wouldn't help me find an answer lol. At uni I could have had longer on course work and as I said to the tutor, no point I won't get it in the real world so don't want it now. Having said that I learn in a specific way, some ways just don't suit me being taught maths in a rigid way by a teacher on a blackboard for example and I pretty much self taught myself gcse maths from the course books got an A and adjusting to my way of processing data, the teacher was pretty useless unless you were one of his 'favourite' students anyway.

    I can 'visualise' if things, say a sofa and a coffee table, will work together but at the same time I don't see the objects together or the actual products together. I have a pretty good memory for products I've seen but always remember what the product looked like, just the 'deisgn' vibe it gave off.

    What do you see when you close your eyes?

    When I think about it you could say I'm using my eyelids as paper and using my eyes to 'draw' the ideas rather than just picturing it in my head. It's a really weird and hard thing to explain and I wouldn't put it past me to have automatically adapted if I do have Aphantasia due to needing to adapt my methodologies and work processes because of my dyslexia, I know I do some things differently to others. I don't have a "certificate" either. My son has it too. From what you say, drawing on the back of your eyelids with your eyes is a common thing with Aphantasia and I sometimes do it unconsciously with my finger.

    Must look like I'm conducting. I can draw without reference but I tend to do it from a kind of description in my mind in the same way as you said with the Eames chair. I know what it looks like from a kind of list and I'd just make it from that. People do adapt because they don't know they have it and we unconsciously come up with bypass techniques to overcome it.

    We do things differently. I find this fascinating. Please excuse my ignorance but I also find this a tad hard to believe, it sounds like people or myself are a bit confused as to how the imagination works, or can work. Sure people may imagining things differently, but we all imagine in some way or form. Sometimes words are not enough. I cannot heal what can only be healed by faith and the passage of time. And I cannot mend what I cannot control, which is nothing, when I really think about it. To forgive what has been done to me.