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As for the relationship between reason and faith, today Muslims are in a negative period of their history. Certainly it is possible to unite the two, but they would have to work very hard. There are many reasons for this regression, but fundamentally, there is ignorance on the part of the Muslim clergy.

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Knowing their faith and knowing the Gospel, the Gospel cannot fear the Koran, in his expert opinion. Father Samir spoke with ZENIT about his true concerns: indifferent Christians who don't know their faith, and Christians who don't realize that Muslim immigration to the West may be the perfect opportunity for evangelization.

Q: What are the most common preconceptions about Islam you encounter among practicing Christians? Father Samir: The most common preconceptions are rather negative: Muslims are not modern people; they are not open to others; Muslims are a violent group — things like that. You find the same negative preconceptions when you hear what Muslims say about Christians: They are unbelievers, pagans, immoral; they are aggressive. What you hear about the United States is also very negative: It is imperialistic, it uses its power to dominate other people, etc.

This is common in humanity. Each one looks at the other from his point of view and notices what is different, and the difference is often seen as negative. As Christ said in the sixth chapter of Luke, verse Why do you take note of the grain of dust in your brother's eye, but take no note of the bit of wood which is in your eye? We have different approaches to many things. For instance, the Trinity in our dogma is the deepest expression of communion with God himself — he is loving and self-giving.

But to Muslims, it is seen as something awful: three gods. It makes them think Christians are like the old pagans, seemingly believing in more than one god.

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Father Samir: Mostly, I hear questions about whether a good Muslim can be modern and faithful at the same time. In Europe, especially in France, the question is whether Islam is compatible with a secular society. Another question is whether Islam is violent; this comes regularly.

They wonder if this is something inherent to Islam, or simply a problem we have today. Q: Historically speaking, Muslim lands rarely revert to Christianity or any other religion, and are generally intolerant of Christianity. Today we see explosive Muslim population growth in traditionally Christian lands such as Europe and North America.

Should Christians fear the growth of Islam? What is the proper Christian response to the constantly expanding Muslim umma? Father Samir: Muslims rarely convert to Christianity or other religions — this is true. Even if we've seen in the last 10 years a change, in Algeria they are making laws against conversion to Christianity. But this does not stop the conversions.


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The same is happening with less intensity in Morocco. In southern Africa, there is much more conversion. The response of the Libyan imam, who is responsible for the propagation of Islam in Africa, was wondering how to stop conversions to Christianity, saying that there have been 6 million Muslims converting to Christianity in Africa. Recently, I met one of my former students, an Algerian Muslim, and I asked him whether he had married and had children. He said he and his wife had three children, but this was just the beginning of their family. Meanwhile, you have Western people having one or two and saying that it's enough.

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What I fear really is the indifference of many Christians to their own faith. You hear a lot of Christians saying that it doesn't matter if you are Christian or Muslim or Buddhist, the main thing is to love each other.

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This is partly true, but you have to ask yourself, "How do we love each other better? If I really am a Christian, and living according to the Gospel, I will love better. I don't fear Muslims. Knowing their faith and knowing the Gospel, the Gospel cannot fear the Koran. Q: Have you seen an increase in interest among Christians since Pope Benedict's famous Regensburg address to gain knowledge and foster dialogue with Muslims? Is the reverse true as well?


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Father Samir: I think the famous address of Pope Benedict at Regensburg was a very important step in the last decade. The first reaction was very negative by Muslims; many Christians and Catholics said it was a mistake. After a while, when all this noise disappeared slowly, Muslims started to rethink it. Christians also started to ask themselves why the Pope quoted this sentence from the 14th century. We all started, Christians and Muslims, to reflect on what he really said in this address. There was one sentence that was not wrong but difficult to explain — because you have to go back to history — but the address was eight pages.

Many in the West then realized it was very positive, in fact, that the Pope had put his finger on something very important. Faith is disappearing in the West. Reason is emptied from its original Greek spiritual meaning. People think if you can't prove physically something, it doesn't exist. Now people are starting to reflect anew on faith.

In the Muslim world, the same thing happened. One hundred and thirty-eight people, lead by Prince Al-Ghazi of Jordan, undersigned a very positive letter in response to Regensburg — now people have signed it, explaining that Islam and Christianity have a common double principle: love for God and for neighbor. Two years later, in November of , we had a meeting to discuss the issues brought up in the Regensburg address, with 30 Muslim and 30 Catholic representatives in Rome.

We had a wonderful discussion. It was not always easy, but very deep and open-minded, each person making a great effort to hear the other. The last day we had to write a common statement. We came to a point at which it was impossible to go further — the conflict was so strong — dealing with the liberty of conscience. Right before the end of meeting, before we were going to meet the Pope, Cardinal Tauran, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, said, "Unfortunately, I have to announce something very sad; we couldn't reach a common agreement.

But a minute later, the great mufti of Sarajevo, imam Mustafa Ceric, representing the Muslim group, came and said, "I have good news for you: we agreed on point five dealing with the liberty of conscience. We have decided to have a meeting every two years, one time hosted by Muslims and the next time hosted by Catholics. Q: What, in your experience, are the most fruitful ways for fostering peace and goodwill between Christians and Muslims?

God loves them. This is very important. They are not enemies, they are not foreigners; they are, as sincere believers, members of our family. Muslims are religious people essentially, because a good Muslim puts God above everything else in his life, normally. The same should be said for Christians, but I must recognize that often, in the West, Christians don't put God above everything else.

When I have any encounter with a Muslim, I know if I appeal to something religious in his and my life, we will agree. We will agree on values because we say these are coming from God. I know we are all brothers. This is not a simple assertion; it's real. We are really brothers.


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    • We all descend from Adam. The intent of Islam is to adore the only God, and they think they achieve the mission initiated with Abraham through the prophets, Moses and Christ — and Islam in the achievement. It's clear for me as a Christian that the achievement is in Christ, because he is the Word of God. After God sent his Word, he cannot send another word, the Koran, to correct or fulfill his previous Word, Christ.

    I disagree with Muslims that the Koran is the last word of God, and that Mohammad is the "seal of the prophets. Here we disagree, but this disagreement means a Muslim and I are seeking the perfection of God. This is not bad. There is no exclusion, but with one condition.

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    I am convinced the perfection and the achievement of perfection is in the Gospel, but I am also convinced a Muslim is seeking the same aim and the same God. I am asking myself, "Why are Muslims spreading so much, are growing in the Western countries? Why in Europe are there 15 million Muslims? Would it be better if we didn't have Muslims there at all? The fact that Muslims are in North America and Europe means that they are my neighbors. They can find a Bible and open it, and find Jesus Christ. They can enter into a church; they can participate in prayer with us.

    As a Christian I believe God is calling us to respond to respond to Muslims with the love of Christ, while at the same time being strong in the Lord without compromising our faith. We must trust Him to teach us through His word asking Him to show us what to do and say by the Holy Spirit. I speak from some experience, as my oldest daughter converted to Islam and married a Muslim man. They had kept their marriage secret for months and my wife and I only found out months later when we requested a marriage record search in public records. It is because I want to say that over the last 14 months the Lord has shown us by his love and grace how to work at repairing our relationship with our daughter and son-in-law — The Lord has already done some miracles in that regard.

    We believe one day that our daughter will return to Jesus and also that her husband will be saved. Thanks for sharing! I love this. And I pray that your labor of love would not go unfulfilled in Jesus name! I want to assure you here that, the seed sown into her will soon germinate.