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We can either accept his word or not. The fact is his words are true because he says they are. Now who believes that you and I do as many others. The point is for those who do not accept this there can be endless reasons to make assumptions on whether God was created or not. This is where faith plays an important role. Does this mean he must tell you the brakes are not working in order for you not to drive it?

Just as our Islamic friends state we do not have or can comprehend the higher state of our Creator so how can you explain something that your mind can not cope with. Can a new born baby walk or carry out the complexity of mathematical sums.

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If we do not accept we or limited mentally, physically as well constraint within the human body for a time then we will continue not to accept that this is how things will be until we return. Patience and time are great tests. It would be irresponsible of him not to mention it. But that has nothing to do with your overall point.

Spencer, the Biblical God is eternal. My position is He created our universe.

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So, the Biblical God created time, matter and space. His Word also says that He created the laws that govern our universe, which is a reference to the laws of physics. My response is the Biblical God. That concept has always troubled me, that God existed for an eternity before anything else did, or existed before time itself.

Like an infinite stack of turtles. But the Bible warned us to expect that. Here is an example of two forms of wording, the second of which is about twice as successful as the first: 1. Easy Personal Protection Training 2. Fast Personal Protection Training Suppose we were to write a programme to change characters at random in the first phrase with the following constraints: 1.

Any letter can change. The probability of a letter changing is p. If the change does not produce the desired result, ie phrase 2. The programme runs fast enough to attempt one mutation every microsecond.

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T depends on the value of p selected. A shorter time results if we consider a sequence of 30 amino acids and consider changing just one of them in a defined way. The quantity z is 4 and all else remains the same. These designs are complex. We still can not determine what direction light will go when it hits a prism based on identical condition each time the light hits the dispersion can not be pre determined. If science could calculations prove all outcomes then many of our scientists would be successful wealthy professional gamblers. Well done. Agreed that specified complex information is always the result of intelligence without exception.

Within the context of English every reply here is specified complex. Likewise within the context of life every protein and enzyme is specified complex.

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In order to disprove this well established well documented fact, the naturalist has to PROVE that nature is capable of reproducing specified complex information absent of intelligence with an example we know the origins of. After a million tries with 0 success it turns into worldview bias rather than truth seeking. His Easter bunny is correct. Belief, not proof.

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To which you are entirely welcome. It is an amalgamation of amino acids, which have evolved over billions of years. What about the creation of the metals in stars? All stars of a given mass evolve and create metals in the same way and with increasing complexity giving rise to all the elements on the periodic table. There is no known code for this yet it happens uniformly in an inevitable cascade. Similarly there is a similar inevitability from interactions between the lithosphere, hydrosphere and geosphere where the cascade path of least resistance leads inevitably toward life.


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That it took microbial organisms at least 2. I can see how those that want to believe in a creator, have a limited education or do not understand the principles of evolutionary biology may be taken in by your argument but in reality it is a simple straw man argument and proves nothing.


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I am entirely enthusiastic about the possibility of someone solving this problem. But to date, nobody has solve the design problem in biology. If someone can solve the Evolution 2. Perry, your code argument has been shown to be flawed by better minds than mine. You just refuse to acknowledge that, typical theist stance. Yes matter can not be destroyed but who said the big Bang was the the start of creation. I ask you also how did matter start.

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Was it just here? Can water be destroyed or is it converted? If wood is burned it turns to ash. What matter can be destroyed? This is a question not a statement. Now, essential motion is incompatible with eternity, and matter and essential stability are two mutually exclusive categories that cannot be fused in a single locus. Whatever is stable and immutable in its essence cannot accept movement and change within that essence.

They did not suddenly accidentally show up. They did not evolve into position.

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The point is that Easter eggs were not the result of a cosmic accident… but deliberately placed by an intelligent force. You can call that entity anything you want. You have taken advantage of the fact that people dismiss the Easter Bunny as ridiculous which directs attention away from the fact that you still have not explained how the eggs got there…..

Perry posits that it was not accidental…. The DNA has evolved over billions of years. It simply looks like an eagle to us, because we want it to.