John and his brother, James were called to be disciples of Christ while they were pursuing their occupation of fishing with their father, Zebedee (Matthew ). James, John, and the disciple, Peter seemed to be the most intimate of Jesus' apostles accompanying Jesus on special.
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This tradition was fading as the Apostles were passing away as a result of the vigorous persecutions during that era. There was need to preserve this message in a more sustainable form consequently producing the first New Testament writings as early as AD 50 the First Letter to the Thessalonians. The first Gospel was only completed 20 years later.
Authorship of these later compositions were ascribed to the Apostles from whom the true writers got the message.
They passed it across in written form as they understood it through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I still mantain my point Monsignor that care should be taken with respect to identifying authors of the Books of Scripture as well as interpretation of the text. Inorder to understand more about the disciple whom Jesus loved it is important we draw our minds back to the person of Christ and see the equality of his love towards all.
It will therefore be dangerous to think that Jesus loved a disciple more than the others thereby making that portion of St. He loved of all them equally as he loves us today and he simply treated each one of them according to the disposition of their hearts as well as their willingness to sacrifice for the truth. We should also remember that, although the composition of the written Gospels was completed at that time mid to late 1st century A. I was quite surprised to see that Philip says the first gospel the Gospel of Mark was written c.
I recall that at least 10 years ago the New York Times, of all sources, had an article on its front page to the effect that the earliest full copy of the Gospel of Mark had been unearthed at an archeological site. It was in the form of a scroll, and contained a lot of other content. Try to get my point. The last Apostle to die was John at an Advanced age of about 97 in c. He died naturally and peacefully in Ephesus. Peter and Paul and most of the other disciples died c.
AD 64 much more earlier. Come to think of it; were the gospels that bore their names actually written by them? If not, then others wrote on their behalf and for them according to how they understood them as as how they were directed by the Holy Spirit. It is important to place our minds in context when interpreting the Scriptures, never forgetting that the main blood that runs the veins of the Holy pages of Scripture is love, justice and equality. Jesus of all could not discriminate and therfore we must read that portion of Scripture with a spiritual orientation and likewise all other portions where ambiguity seem to be common because the Sripture is inerrant.
Well i do disagree. The writer of the Gospel who is the disciple that Jesus loved is not John the Apostle but John the Presbyter whose identity had to be hidden as he belonged to the High priestly family. He was a priest and a rabbi. Theophilus is the former High Priest who retired to the High priestly estates in Ephesus. He was the father or grandfather of John the presbyter.
Certain early martyrologies have the Apostle John martyred during the same persection as his brother James the Greater around AD. The point of departure is Jn. Now the other disciple was known to the high priest, and he entered the courtyard of the high priest with Jesus. But Peter stood at the gate outside. So the other disciple, the acquaintance of the high priest, went out and spoke to the gatekeeper and brought Peter in. Athol, I have read many theories about authorship.
Such questions swirl around many if not most NT books. The position you cite is out there and would be regarded as a minority position. I have read similar conclusions about the The Book of Rev. While authorship questions have their place and need to be discussed at certain levels, I often, from a merely pious level, remember that the Holy Spirit is the true author.
What ever human being he inspired to write the text is an interesting academic question and helps us perhaps to understand a bit of the context but in the end God the Holy Spirit is the truest answer on which my faith in the text rests. The apostle John was in the Garden with jesus but then as did all the apostles they ran off and left Jesus. John Mark and this priestly John were two young disciples of Jesus who were not of the It is said that John served as the High priest and wore the High priestly robes- John the apostle was a fisherman not a priest, If John the beloved belonged to the High priestly family then he may well have served as the high priest on Yom Kippor if he was the Deputy High priiest and the actual High priest became ritually unable to serve.
Yes, Robert, in the end my post was meant more at a spiritual sense of the text rather than a textual sense or a discussion as to authorship. I will say however, on a blog such as this discussion is one of the main points. It is a true fact that comment threads some times go in directions rather distant than the original article but I guess that is the nature of discussions. I was most amused a few weeks back when I wrote an article on having a broken humble heart and somehow the conversation ended up being a rather lenghty on on modest dress in Church.
In this case however, the question of authorship does bear a rather central place since since I cited Jn All historicity aside, John has always struck me as the most contempletive of the Apostles. Sorry, no footnotes or references, these are strickly personal paradigms.
Until now I never thought about why or from whence it came. You all give me much to reflect on and research. I was thinking the same thing as well.
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And this is why I love the Gospel of John the best … I feel more present at those events 2, years ago. I have heard before the suggestion that Irenaeus confused John the apostle with a later John the Presbyter. There is no evidence for this. Polycarp, who had been a disciple of John the Apostle. Dianne the point is that it is John the presbyter known as St John the beloved who leaned on his breast and wrote the Gospel and the other writings of John and was entrusted to Mary and went to Ephesus. Notice he is called the beloved disciple not beloved Apostle. John the Apostle was close to Jesus along with his brother James and with Peter.
Of course both Johns were actually disciples and apostles but only one was of the 12 apostles. Polycarp was taught by John the Presbyter of Ephesus who was also an apostle shaliach who had been with Jesus but not one of the I have come to love St. About a year ago we moved to a small town. We started going to the most beautiful church I have ever seen, St. Last Sunday, 3 parishes in the town merged. The home church is St.
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The ceremony was magnificent. The two altar stones from the closing churches were carried in procession and laid in the existing altar of St. The new parish is beautfully called St. John the Guardian of Our Lady.
Lastly, in John Out of all the people in the Gospel, Lazarus holds the distinction of:. John continues to use phileo throughout his Gospel when referring to the disciple whom Jesus loved, including at the resurrection. John used phileo when recording the love between the Father and Son in John 3: If Lazarus is the disciple whom Jesus loved, then the identity of the mystery disciple with Peter at the tomb of Jesus makes sense: If a rabbi brought you back to life, you would want to follow that person around — even become their student. You would be eternally grateful for that person.
If there was a rumor that Jesus was alive you would want to be first at the tomb since Jesus was there at your tomb. If Jesus could bring you back from the dead surely he could bring himself back from death. Lazarus certainly has ample reasons to hang around and continue to have a friendship with Jesus. The friendship of Jesus and Lazarus is overlooked because we do not know why Jesus loved Lazarus so much. Or, it is the other way around: Suggestions accounting for this are numerous. One common proposal is that the author concealed his name due simply to modesty.
Another is that concealment served political or security reasons, made necessary by the threat of persecution or embarrassment during the time of the gospel's publication.
Lazarus, not John, was the disciple whom Jesus loved
The author may have been a highly placed person in Jerusalem who was hiding his affiliation with Christianity, [29] or the anonymity may have been appropriate for one living the withdrawn life of an ascetic, and one of the many unnamed disciples in the Gospel may have been either the Beloved Disciple himself or others under his guidance, who out of the humility of their ascetic commitment hid their identity or subsumed their witness under that of their spiritual master.
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John the Evangelist , writes that the author of John's gospel may have deliberately obscured the identity of the Beloved Disciple so readers of the gospel may better identify with the disciple's relationship with Jesus:. Perhaps the disciple is never named, never individualized, so that we can more easily accept that he bears witness to an intimacy that is meant for each one of us. The closeness that he enjoyed is a sign of the closeness that is mine and yours because we are in Christ and Christ is in us. In art, the Beloved Disciple is often portrayed as a beardless youth, usually as one of the Twelve Apostles at the Last Supper or with Mary at the crucifixion.
In some medieval art, the Beloved Disciple is portrayed with his head in Christ's lap.
Many artists have given different interpretations of John From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Apostle Beloved disciple Evangelist Patmos Presbyter. Apocryphon Acts Signs Gospel. Although ancient traditions attributed to the Apostle John the Fourth Gospel, the Book of Revelation, and the three Epistles of John, modern scholars believe that he wrote none of them.
Eerdmans Publishing, , p. In this way, indeed, he usually refers to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved: The Gospel of John: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. The Gospel according to John. A Historical Perspective , University Of Iowa Press, The Mystery of the Beloved Disciple: New Evidence, Complete Answer. Why All the Controversy?
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